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| | I am completely shocked with the new location announced for the pride centre on 111 st and 95 avenue. This is not the type of area I would have ever imagined the Pride Centre to end up. The website does not seem up to date. What the heck is going on? |
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| Well, from what i've heard (and don't quote me, I'm not a representative or anything), the lease on the current pride center was ending, and the owner's did not want to renew. So, the Pride Center was given 30 days to find a new location. From what I've heard the building itself is very nice, and much larger than the current center. However, the area of town could be considered less than... perfect. But it is a north of the more troublesome area, Little Italy is not that bad of an area.
Still... we'll just have to wait and see what happens. Think about it positively, maybe the location will be awesome, and it might help the Center alot to move there. Who knows?
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| I personally really like the new building, it's very open and bright... plus it has a creepy basement, which is always nice
as for the location, I'm pretty neutral on it, Norwood is a nice area once you get to know it a bit better, granted it's not as central as the old centre was...
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| | Creeping basement is a nice way to put it! It is rather slummy if you ask me, with the basement floor leaking water and the overall smell of mold. I can't imagine any group in Edmonton wanting to meet there. Time will tell what effect this move will have on usage by the lgbt groups in town. The gay and lesbian community deserve so much better. Perhaps it is intended for street people who are not necessarily gay but need a place to hang out. Strikes me this is what was happening with the previous space during the day anyway. It became a place for street people to hang out. I heard that there was the odd sleep over at the previous space as well. |
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| | which is so unfortunate. I mean who ever showed up at the Pot lucks, we had one every month and members from the community never showed up. It was mostly the staff and on some occasions Karen and Pam. How many members from the community ever showed up to our Centre? Had it not been for the discussion groups, the volunteers would have nothing to do for their hosting nights. There is so much apathy, which is hardly believable. Do we even have a sense of community as do the Hellenic, Polish, Ukranian, Muslim, Hindu et al people? If members from the community had taken an active interest in the first place perhaps things would have gone differently. Supply needs demand, basic economics.
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| kairos (7/4/2006) Creeping basement is a nice way to put it! It is rather slummy if you ask me, with the basement floor leaking water and the overall smell of mold. I can't imagine any group in Edmonton wanting to meet there.
Sorry, I didn't mean my reference to the basement to be taken in a negative context - I actually rather like the basement, it has a unique charm to it - albeit it does need a coat of paint and some minor fixing up before it can be used to it's full potential.
As an added note, the more and more time I spend in the new place the more it grows on me - especially the neighbourhood - yesterday while I was at the centre we had two or three curious neighbours pop in to welcome us to the neighbourhood, which is really nice.
I'm really quite looking forward to when we're a bit more set up and I can start up some youth programs again.
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| I think the new location is stupid. A Gay Community Centre should be with in the Gay community! Not in the Norwood Area....how safe is that for youths questioning their sexuality...when drugged out street people and prostitutes staggering across 111 ave. The whole idea of the centre was to be central for all to access...now not so much. I drive by that area all the time and even mid day it is slummy and deralect. Very disappointed in the board and saddened for Edmonton's gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgendered community.
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| Kyle (7/5/2006) I think the new location is stupid. A Gay Community Centre should be with in the Gay community! Not in the Norwood Area....how safe is that for youths questioning their sexuality...when drugged out street people and prostitutes staggering across 111 ave. The whole idea of the centre was to be central for all to access...now not so much. I drive by that area all the time and even mid day it is slummy and deralect. Very disappointed in the board and saddened for Edmonton's gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgendered community.
I'm not sure when you've been around there, but I've been there almost every day for the last week helping to set things up and I have yet to see any 'drugged out street people' or prostitutes walking around the new centre... I'd highly recommend coming for a visit and seeing what we've done and what we intend to do before you jump to conclusions
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| Kyle (7/5/2006) I think the new location is stupid. A Gay Community Centre should be with in the Gay community! Not in the Norwood Area....how safe is that for youths questioning their sexuality...when drugged out street people and prostitutes staggering across 111 ave. The whole idea of the centre was to be central for all to access...now not so much. I drive by that area all the time and even mid day it is slummy and deralect. Very disappointed in the board and saddened for Edmonton's gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgendered community.
Several members of the gay community live in that area. Two of whom have vocally supported the Centre there. Only yesterday we were helping a homeless gay/bi kid, who walked all the way there, to find a place to lodge. He felt safe. I have seen no prostitutes at the new Centre, though I have seen one such character in broad daylight at the Big Fresh Place where we had our Pride Picnic. Infact she was there in the presence of Laurie Hawn -the Conservative MP for Edmonton Centre. There are several prostitutes who frequent the area where a gay activist I know of lives and he is busy cleaning up that mess behind the Grant MacEwan Area. As for access to the LGBT, well the people who frequented the old Centre have called us to visit the new Centre. The discussion groups like the ISCWR group is supposed to meet today at the new place. Only yesterday a social group behind us held their social event there. Families with chidlren were there. Today we were visited by a Mom and her little girl. Let's have constructive criticism.
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| I am glad to see an opinion doesn't count. As for when I am in the area...7am, 11 am, 1 pm, 6pm, 9pm, 1 am. Where are the prostitutes...try across the street on the south side or 2 blocks north. Where are the drunk or drugged out people? anywhere from 86 st to 101 st. in the evenings. It is a mixed area and evenings, when the groups meet, is not a time to be walking in that area. I was just saying there are better areas to put the centre and be easier access to all. As for fund raising...what happened to all the backers that were to be purchasing a bldg. for the centre? What do they think of this move? Maybe others are disappointed on the direction the centre has turned as well.
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